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siddhuwarrier
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 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: Thanks! :) |
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Thank you, surfguy and SoundBrigade. You've helped clear a lot of doubts I might have had.
| surfguy wrote: | | I wouldn't worry about racism...it's everywhere...just be smart and since you will be with your GF you should be fine. Honestly just stay clear of groups of young males and especially if they are drinking. Just be aware of your surroundings. As far as russian women being loose...yes many are...just as many women are every where. But if that is not your thing then you shouldn't be concerned. Just remember desperate people do desperate things...and hey some people just happen to like a lot of sex |
Oh, I don't subscribe to tht stupid 'loose Russian woman' stereotype at all. I think, as you put it (more nicely), a load of bollocks!  I was being sarcastic to a lot of blokes from my country who seem to whinge about racism while being unbelievably racist themselves.
I'll watch out for the 'groups of young males drinking' - we have the same problem in India (with large groups of young men - it's not racist - at least not to me - but it's usually other forms of harrasment).
And yeah, I'm definitely taking a couple of bottles of good vodka back with me.  |
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Paul Holmes
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1/2 of the world's registared White Supremicist are from Russia. So the threat is real. But they confine themselves in less touristy areas and pick "Cherny Ludi" or Georgians, Chechyan and so than actual blacks or East Indians.
I showed up wearing a Georgian Rugby jersey, and I was refused service and restaurants and bars. I switched with my Canadian Jersey, I got served right away.
If you do not believe there is rascism, watch the attempt at Gay Parade. There is one thing to stop the illegal parade, but watch the thugs go out beat the queers.
I have been to Russia three times and I will probably never go back until things have changed |
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jo jo 7
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Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Location: Louisville,Kentucky
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | 1/2 of the world's registared White Supremicist are from Russia. So the threat is real. But they confine themselves in less touristy areas and pick "Cherny Ludi" or Georgians, Chechyan and so than actual blacks or East Indians.
I showed up wearing a Georgian Rugby jersey, and I was refused service and restaurants and bars. I switched with my Canadian Jersey, I got served right away.
If you do not believe there is rascism, watch the attempt at Gay Parade. There is one thing to stop the illegal parade, but watch the thugs go out beat the queers.
I have been to Russia three times and I will probably never go back until things have changed |
Until things change? That is probably going to be for a long, long, long, loooooooooong time! |
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surfguy
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Joined: 13 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks! :) |
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| siddhuwarrier wrote: | Thank you, surfguy and SoundBrigade. You've helped clear a lot of doubts I might have had.
| surfguy wrote: | | I wouldn't worry about racism...it's everywhere...just be smart and since you will be with your GF you should be fine. Honestly just stay clear of groups of young males and especially if they are drinking. Just be aware of your surroundings. As far as russian women being loose...yes many are...just as many women are every where. But if that is not your thing then you shouldn't be concerned. Just remember desperate people do desperate things...and hey some people just happen to like a lot of sex |
Oh, I don't subscribe to tht stupid 'loose Russian woman' stereotype at all. I think, as you put it (more nicely), a load of bollocks! I was being sarcastic to a lot of blokes from my country who seem to whinge about racism while being unbelievably racist themselves.
I'll watch out for the 'groups of young males drinking' - we have the same problem in India (with large groups of young men - it's not racist - at least not to me - but it's usually other forms of harrasment).
And yeah, I'm definitely taking a couple of bottles of good vodka back with me. |
Yes I have my two good bottles of vodka...one with the pepper in it...figured i'd give that a try. Also beware of Georgian wine...do not buy...as there is a definite trouble with it. |
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jo jo 7
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Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 3205
Location: Louisville,Kentucky
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks! :) |
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| surfguy wrote: | | siddhuwarrier wrote: | Thank you, surfguy and SoundBrigade. You've helped clear a lot of doubts I might have had.
| surfguy wrote: | | I wouldn't worry about racism...it's everywhere...just be smart and since you will be with your GF you should be fine. Honestly just stay clear of groups of young males and especially if they are drinking. Just be aware of your surroundings. As far as russian women being loose...yes many are...just as many women are every where. But if that is not your thing then you shouldn't be concerned. Just remember desperate people do desperate things...and hey some people just happen to like a lot of sex |
Oh, I don't subscribe to tht stupid 'loose Russian woman' stereotype at all. I think, as you put it (more nicely), a load of bollocks! I was being sarcastic to a lot of blokes from my country who seem to whinge about racism while being unbelievably racist themselves.
I'll watch out for the 'groups of young males drinking' - we have the same problem in India (with large groups of young men - it's not racist - at least not to me - but it's usually other forms of harrasment).
And yeah, I'm definitely taking a couple of bottles of good vodka back with me. |
Yes I have my two good bottles of vodka...one with the pepper in it...figured i'd give that a try. Also beware of Georgian wine...do not buy...as there is a definite trouble with it. |
What's wrong with the Georgian wine? |
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surfguy
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| it's very difficult in societies and one thing is for certain...change the mindset of the people and you can change and shape a society. Racism is every where and being anti gay is not racism...gays are not a race. Societies need to determine what is acceptable and what is not. So we can only blame the Russian government and the russian people for allowing or not allowing gays. Ultimately Russia needs to decide and to act on the issue. As far as being anti Georgian or what ever...well things are not good between the two countries and so many Georgian mafia are in Russia...same goes for the Azerbaijanis etc. Again this is not racism...this is nationalism...And Russia and it's people needs to decide. As for anyone...really if we are outsiders...and we do not like what is that goes on in Russia...we have two choices...avoid the place...or take our chances. It's unfortunate but that is the reality. People are stupid to go to places where they are not welcomed. And societies are are wrong to not welcome. Gonna take time to change the mind set |
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surfguy
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Joined: 13 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks! :) |
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| jo jo 7 wrote: | | surfguy wrote: | | siddhuwarrier wrote: | Thank you, surfguy and SoundBrigade. You've helped clear a lot of doubts I might have had.
| surfguy wrote: | | I wouldn't worry about racism...it's everywhere...just be smart and since you will be with your GF you should be fine. Honestly just stay clear of groups of young males and especially if they are drinking. Just be aware of your surroundings. As far as russian women being loose...yes many are...just as many women are every where. But if that is not your thing then you shouldn't be concerned. Just remember desperate people do desperate things...and hey some people just happen to like a lot of sex |
Oh, I don't subscribe to tht stupid 'loose Russian woman' stereotype at all. I think, as you put it (more nicely), a load of bollocks! I was being sarcastic to a lot of blokes from my country who seem to whinge about racism while being unbelievably racist themselves.
I'll watch out for the 'groups of young males drinking' - we have the same problem in India (with large groups of young men - it's not racist - at least not to me - but it's usually other forms of harrasment).
And yeah, I'm definitely taking a couple of bottles of good vodka back with me. |
Yes I have my two good bottles of vodka...one with the pepper in it...figured i'd give that a try. Also beware of Georgian wine...do not buy...as there is a definite trouble with it. |
What's wrong with the Georgian wine? |
there is no quality control and it is made bad. Also it stains your teeth...there are problems with it |
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jo jo 7
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Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 3205
Location: Louisville,Kentucky
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks! :) |
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| surfguy wrote: | | jo jo 7 wrote: | | surfguy wrote: | | siddhuwarrier wrote: | Thank you, surfguy and SoundBrigade. You've helped clear a lot of doubts I might have had.
| surfguy wrote: | | I wouldn't worry about racism...it's everywhere...just be smart and since you will be with your GF you should be fine. Honestly just stay clear of groups of young males and especially if they are drinking. Just be aware of your surroundings. As far as russian women being loose...yes many are...just as many women are every where. But if that is not your thing then you shouldn't be concerned. Just remember desperate people do desperate things...and hey some people just happen to like a lot of sex |
Oh, I don't subscribe to tht stupid 'loose Russian woman' stereotype at all. I think, as you put it (more nicely), a load of bollocks! I was being sarcastic to a lot of blokes from my country who seem to whinge about racism while being unbelievably racist themselves.
I'll watch out for the 'groups of young males drinking' - we have the same problem in India (with large groups of young men - it's not racist - at least not to me - but it's usually other forms of harrasment).
And yeah, I'm definitely taking a couple of bottles of good vodka back with me. |
Yes I have my two good bottles of vodka...one with the pepper in it...figured i'd give that a try. Also beware of Georgian wine...do not buy...as there is a definite trouble with it. |
What's wrong with the Georgian wine? |
there is no quality control and it is made bad. Also it stains your teeth...there are problems with it |
hmmmm.....there must be food coloring in it or they are using way to many blueberries in their wine and not grapes or other berries.... |
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Paul Holmes
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Surfguy, Georgian wine was good enough until they sided with the USA instead of Russia, then the quality control disappeared.
Mafia is correct, but Russian mafia is the bureaucracy they have built.
Surfguy, you have two choices, but majority of Russians have only one choice live with it. That is why many of the women are willing to drop the laundry to find a foreigner especially ones that live in the village. |
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Ender
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Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 340
Location: Ural mountains
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| Paul Holmes wrote: | | I have been to Russia three times and I will probably never go back until things have changed |
Bye, bye beautiful (c) Nightwish  |
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Ender
WayToRussified
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 340
Location: Ural mountains
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Thanks! :) |
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| jo jo 7 wrote: | | What's wrong with the Georgian wine? |
There is no such thing in Russia as "good or high quality Georgian wine". You just can't buy good Georgian wine in a shop. Even for big amount of money. Best description of liquid selling under name of Georgian wine is - sour water with a paint. Either everything named Georgean wine is fake or every Georgian wine sold in Russia is shit.
I can buy high quailty wines from France (sometime I get head aches after them, but they ok), from Crimea (IMHO, best sweet wines in the world), from Australia (nice but very specific taste), from Chili and Hispania (good wines for their price) in a shop, but I can't buy high quality wines from Georgia. This state has been for a long time. |
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mister_wizzz
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Joined: 27 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks! :) |
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| Ender wrote: | | jo jo 7 wrote: | | What's wrong with the Georgian wine? |
There is no such thing in Russia as "good or high quality Georgian wine". You just can't buy good Georgian wine in a shop. Even for big amount of money. Best description of liquid selling under name of Georgian wine is - sour water with a paint. Either everything named Georgean wine is fake or every Georgian wine sold in Russia is shit.
I can buy high quailty wines from France (sometime I get head aches after them, but they ok), from Crimea (IMHO, best sweet wines in the world), from Australia (nice but very specific taste), from Chili and Hispania (good wines for their price) in a shop, but I can't buy high quality wines from Georgia. This state has been for a long time. |
I tasted Georgian wine when I was in Minsk 10 yeras ago. I guess it wasn't fake because we were in a nice and expansive Club and I was really surprised, this red wine was sweet   Well, I didn't like it at all.
As for French wine, everybody abroad think french wine should be from Bordeaux. As a French I am not really fan of Bordeaux, too heavy for me. I prefer lighter red wines like Beaujolais (not the Beaujolais nouveau, this one sucks), if you find Beaujolais called Julienas, Morgon, Brouilly you will not be disapointed, the same with some Cote du Rhone like Saint Joseph, this one is one my favorite and no headache garanted.
About Spanish ones, Sangre de Toro (blood of bull) is a very decent one for a very reasonable price, it is quite wide spread, I think you can find it easely in Russia.
Well, I guessed you were talking about Spain when you say Hispania, we don't call this country that way since the Roman Empire |
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Ender
WayToRussified
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Posts: 340
Location: Ural mountains
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks! :) |
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| mister_wizzz wrote: |
I tasted Georgian wine when I was in Minsk 10 yeras ago. I guess it wasn't fake because we were in a nice and expansive Club and I was really surprised, this red wine was sweet Well, I didn't like it at all. |
I do not think that red wine must be semi-sweet or dry. For example most of sweet wines from Crimea have deep red color.
| mister_wizzz wrote: | | As for French wine, everybody abroad think french wine should be from Bordeaux. As a French I am not really fan of Bordeaux, too heavy for me. I prefer lighter red wines like Beaujolais (not the Beaujolais nouveau, this one sucks), |
I noticed this. Grand PR company in Russia and bad taste.
| mister_wizzz wrote: | | if you find Beaujolais called Julienas, Morgon, Brouilly you will not be disapointed, the same with some Cote du Rhone like Saint Joseph, this one is one my favorite and no headache garanted. About Spanish ones, Sangre de Toro (blood of bull) is a very decent one for a very reasonable price, it is quite wide spread, I think you can find it easely in Russia. |
Thank you. I must write these names to my note book. Next time I'll visit wine store I will try to select something from your recomendations.
| mister_wizzz wrote: | | Well, I guessed you were talking about Spain when you say Hispania, we don't call this country that way since the Roman Empire |
Thanks for correction. Of course Spain. My mistake. "Hispania" also word from old Russian spelling from XV..XVI century. |
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Soffie
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LOL!
Russia is ONE BIG STEREOTYPE! red a lot before going here, still looking for vodka company as i've just arrived in the morning;)
Don't understand jokes about russian roads...and how they are connected with fools? (found the info on my hotel's site - acme-hotel.com) Afraid to ask girl-administrator...Don't wanna be that fool!
By the way it's almost like home here, Christmas Tree in the hall and presents, hihi
gonna get drunk preeeetty soon! see ya guys!
(find me in the centre) |
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Ender
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| Soffie wrote: | | Don't understand jokes about russian roads...and how they are connected with fools? (found the info on my hotel's site - acme-hotel.com) Afraid to ask girl-administrator...Don't wanna be that fool! |
It is not joke. It is truth in the form of joke. If we fix roads and get rid of fools Russia will become paradise on Earth. |
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